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Starting a new "mini-" series if you will here. This one was done in February 12th, as I had a night walk to the nearby traffic light (carrying my tripod and camera), planning to do some long exposures. Generally speaking, the results weren't up to my expectations, but I managed to salvage some shots.
For this shoot, I've used Voigtlnder 20mm, coupled with a variable ND filter (yes, ND, at night, for long exposure), and "Starry Night" filter from Kenko. This filter is supposedly used to reduce the light pollution, and seems awkward to use it in such situations, but I just wanted to try, since I've never used this one before even though I got it months ago. This filter also has a bluish tint, and I had to set the white balance properly (using WB correction tool) and despite all of that, processing the images in terms of colors was a bit of a task, especially in terms of the color halos (or bleeding), which eventually, I had to make peace with! The exposure for this one was about 7 minutes. What's strange though, cars didn't pass by much when I shoot such long exposures, but only after I finish them!
There's in ZetaWorlds which starts in a bit over an hour and a half.
There's the in the Wolf Territories.
There's an unlisted St. David's Day Dance on the Welsh sim in Speculoos Grid.
Not to mention a whole lot of more or less regular events.
Maybe we'll do some event hopping today.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #OpenSim #OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #Hypergrid #VirtualEvent #ZetaWorlds #WolfTerritories #WolfTerritoriesGrid #WolfGrid #WTGrid #Speculoos #OpenSimWorldsFair #StDavidsDay #DyddGwylDewiHapus #ZeroDiscriminationDayToday is one of those days on which simply too much happens in the Hypergrid at the same time.
There's in ZetaWorlds which starts in a bit over an hour and a half.
There's the in the Wolf Territories.
There's an unlisted St. David's Day Dance on the Welsh sim in Speculoos Grid.
Not to mention a whole lot of more or less regular events.
Maybe we'll do some event hopping today.
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Das tun wir ja nicht mit denselben Leuten.
"Bier trinken" tun wir mit Leuten, die offen fr das ganze Fediverse sind, wie und , die ja selbst nicht nur auf Mastodon sind, sondern unter Doris und Steffen auch auf Hubzilla. Und Hubzilla ist technologisch wie auch kulturell das diametrale Gegenteil von Mastodon.
"Streiten" tun wir mit denen, die darauf beharren, da das Fediverse nur Mastodon ist. Da Mastodon ein in sich geschlossenes Netzwerk ist und alle, die das bestreiten, in aller ffentlichkeiti als ahnungslose Idioten beschimpfen (was so tatschlich mit einem Tech-Journalisten passiert ist).
Mit Leuten, die Mastodon als Goldstandard im ganzen Fediverse ansehen und alles, was von Mastodon abweicht, als entweder kaputt oder konzeptionell falsch.
Mit Leuten, die mit aller Gewalt Mastodons Kultur (die erst Mitte 2022 von frischen Twitter-Flchtlingen auf Basis von Mastodon 3.x definiert wurde) im ganzen Fediverse durchdrcken wollen und damit andere Serveranwendungen ihrer eigenen, eigens auf sie zugeschnittenen und oftmals sogar lteren Kultur berauben wollen. Damit geht dann einher, da sie Nicht-Mastodon-Nutzern verbieten wollen, Features der von ihnen genutzten Software zu nutzen, nur weil Mastodon sie (standardmig) nicht hat.
Siehe wieder (Calckey, einige tausend Zeichen zur Verfgung), den ein Mastodon-Nutzer angeschnauzt hat, er soll geflligst entweder lange Posts (alles ber 500 Zeichen) in Schnipsel von maximal 500 Zeichen zerschneiden oder sich aus dem Fediverse verpissen. Doch, das ist ganz genau so passiert.
Man stt ja schon auf vehemente Widerstnde, wenn Leute, die nur Mastodon kennen und das ganze Fediverse nur durch die Mastodon-Brille sehen, der felsenfesten Ansicht sind, sie htten einen absolut objektiven und ungetrbten Blick auf das Fediverse. Die allermeisten Mastodon-Nutzer beharren darauf, da Nicht-Mastodon-Nutzer im Fediverse nicht diskriminiert oder ausgegrenzt werden, whrend sie selbst fleiig Nicht-Mastodon-Nutzer diskriminieren. Es ist fr sie ganz einfach komplett unvorstellbar, da das Fediverse fr jemanden, der z. B. Anfang, Mitte der 2010er nach Friendica kam, irgendwie anders aussieht als fr jemanden, der irgendwann von 2022 bis 2024 nach Mastodon kam und nur Mastodon kennt.
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One is , a fork of Friendica from 2012. The other one is called by the community, and it's a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork) of Hubzilla from 2021.
I've made that compare Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) in a number of categories.
Hubzilla and (streams) give you the following possible target audiences for new posts:
The permissions systems of Hubzilla and (streams) are compatible to one another, i.e. one understands the permissions defined by the other. I'm not sure how well they and Friendica play with each other, though.
As for Mastodon: Any post that isn't public is understood by Mastodon as a DM and treated as such. Your contacts can't boost it, for example. The downside is that this kills any chances of meaningful discussions for Mastodon users.
So Hubzilla and (streams) have this advanced permissions system, and they understand threaded conversations and treat each one of these as an enclosed object with exactly one post and any number of comments. A thread always has and enforces consistent permissions all over, including all comments.
If you're on Hubzilla, and you send a post to Alice on Hubzilla and Bob on (streams), not only do both see your post, but both also automatically receive each other's comments, and they can comment on each other's comments.
Mastodon understands your post with restricted permissions as a DM. But Mastodon DMs only ever happen between two actors. This means: If Alice and Bob are on Mastodon, then both receive your post as a DM, but neither receives any comment from the other, and they can't comment on each other's comments either.
Also, fair warning ahead:
Neither of them is "Mastodon with some extra features". They're all very different from Mastodon. They all have steeper learning curves than Mastodon. Friendica's learning curve is significantly steeper than Mastodon's. (streams)' learning curve is quite another bit steeper than Friendica's because the permissions system is not optional, and not everything is public by default. Hubzilla has an even steeper learning curve.
Also, none of the three has a full set of dedicated native mobile apps. For Friendica, there are basically only Android apps. In the Apple App Store, there's nothing. Friendica can also be used with some Mastodon apps, but they only cover maybe 20% of Friendica's features, namely those that Mastodon has, too, so you'll be very, very limited. In fact, they do not cover any permission settings.
For Hubzilla and (streams), there are no phone apps at all. They don't support Mastodon apps either, and they never will. It simply wouldn't make sense because a Mastodon app would not cover important key features.
So if you're on an iPhone or iPad, or if you want to try Hubzilla or (streams), your only option is the Web interface, either in a browser or as a Progressive Web App. At least, all three have Web interfaces that adapt to mobile devices.
Lastly, you won't find (streams) on FediDB or Fediverse Observer. It's intentionally kept away from there, and it intentionally does not submit any stats. There are currently only two public, open-registration instances anyway, , with a German admin who also speaks English.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Facebook #FacebookAlternative Find the latitdue and longitude of any place Typischerweise versuchen Mastodon-Nutzer entweder, jemanden out-of-the-blue zu erwhnen, oder, jemandem out-of-the-blue eine DM zu schicken.
Und genau das geht beides nicht mit Friendica-Nutzern. Wenn du sie einfach so erwhnst, dann merken sie das in aller Regel nicht. Und eine DM kann man nur schicken an volle Verbindungen. Also:
Alternative: sich gleich an eine der Gruppen wenden, also entweder oder .
Das geht dann von Mastodon aus so:
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Das ist ein Fork eines Forks dreier Forks eines Forks (eines Forks) von Hubzilla, aber vom Erfinder von Friendica und Hubzilla. Es ist moderner und praktischer in der Handhabung als Hubzilla und liegt von der Lernkurve her zwischen Friendica und Hubzilla.
Was dabei aber zu bedenken wre:
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In both cases, I had the describe one of my images, always a rendering from within a 3-D virtual world. And then I compared it with a description of the same image of my own.
That said, I didn't compare the AI description with my short description in the alt-text. I went all the way and compared it with my long description in the post, tens of thousands of characters long, which includes extensive explanations of things that the average viewer is unlikely to be familiar with. This is what I consider the benchmark.
Also, I fed the image at the resolution at which I posted it, 800x533 pixels, to the AI. But I myself didn't describe the image by looking at the image. I described it by looking around in-world. If an AI can't zoom in indefinitely and look around obstacles, and it can't, it's actually a disadvantage on the side of the AI and not an unfair advantage on my side.
So without further ado, exhibit A:
contains
If you've got some more time, exhibit B:
Technically, all this is in one thread. But for your convenience, I'll link to the individual messages.
with
(1,120 characters I've asked for a detailed description).
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As far as I know, you can only send posts to a Friendica forum with an exclamation mark to have them forwarded to all members. But you cannot do that with comments, not in a conversation whose (start) post did not go to that forum.
On Friendica and all its descendants, a reply is never a stand-alone post. It's always a comment on another post.
Thus, mentioning a Friendica forum in a comment with an exclamation mark is futile.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #FediTips From what I've read, a digital photograph is considered the default. So for brevity reasons, it must not be mentioned.
Any other media must be mentioned, whether it's a painting, a screenshot from a social media app, a scanned analogue photograph, a flowchart, a CAD blueprint, a 3-D rendering or whatever.
But an alt-text must never start with "Image of", "Picture of" or "Photo of". That's considered bad style and a waste of characters and screen-reading time. If the medium is not mentioned, digital photograph falls into its place as a default.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta How conversations work is not unified all across the Fediverse. Even how connections work is not unified.
Mastodon has taken over the follower/followed principle from Twitter which is always illustrated with arrows with one point. A following B is illustrated with an arrow from A to B. A being followed by B is illustrated with an arrow from B to A. A and B following each other mutually is illustrated with one arrow from A to B and one arrow from B to A.
It appears to me that Friendica has adopted this to become more compatible with Mastodon. But its several descendants, created by Friendica's own creator, starting with Hubzilla, haven't.
Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte still have the bidirectional "connection" or "contact" as the default. It's illustrated with one arrow, but with one point on each end.
Also, all three understand a threaded conversation as an enclosed contruct entirely owned by the conversation starter. Everyone on these three who has the start post on their stream always actually has the whole thread on their stream.
In fact, all three have Conversation Containers implemented. This feature was in 2022. Forte has had it from the get-go as it started out as a fork of (streams). It was eventually turned into and backported to Hubzilla last year.
All three make sure that everyone who has a post on their stream also always has all comments on that post, at least those that are made after they have received the post.
This works on two basic principles:
In a pure Hubzilla/(streams)/Forte system, your above example would look like this:
Now, the conversation works like this.
On Mastodon, for comparison, everything depends on who follows whom, who mentions whom and whose instance knows whose instance.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Conversations #FEP171b #ConversationContainersIn general, you've got two options.
If you don't add a title, Friendica sends the post as a Note-type object. Mastodon will show it with only basic text formatting, i.e. no tables, no horizontal lines, no custom typeface, no text size, no colour, numbered lists converted to bullet-point lists.
As for the images, Mastodon will not show any images within the post. It will show the first four as file attachments below the post, and it will completely ignore the rest because it can't handle more then four file attachments. Even this only works because Friendica, like its descendants, sends images both embedded in the the post and as file attachments. Still, Mastodon throws away all attached images except for four.
If you do add a title, Friendica sends the post as an Article-type object by default. (You can configure Friendica to send posts with titles as Note-type objects as well.) But Mastodon currently still refuses to render Article-type objects. Instead, it just shows the title and a link to the original. The reason for this is a somewhat longer story that involves Mastodon, and some headbutting between their creators and then-developers over full HTML rendering.
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You cannot only follow Friendica accounts from Friendica. Neither can you only follow Mastodon accounts from Mastodon.
You can actually follow Mastodon accounts from Friendica. And vice versa, you can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon.
In fact, you can follow just about anyone anywhere in the Fediverse from both Mastodon and Friendica. For .
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is rapidly growing from people who escape from Facebook.
is outright exploding from people who escape from Instagram.
But you still believe that is only Mastodon because even the mere existence of Friendica or Pixelfed or still hasn't made it into your little Mastodon bubble yet.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Friendica #Pixelfed #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse Because if you want full-blown user rights and all the same features as a local user on all over 30,000 Fediverse instances, you need a local user account on each one of them.
This means two things:
For one, this is utter overkill.
Besides, this is technologically impossible. This would require all Fediverse instances to know all other Fediverse instances. With no exceptions. Like, if I start up my own (streams) instance for the first time, and half a second later, someone on the other side of the globe starts up a Gancio instance, they would immediately have to know each other. And all the other instances in the Fediverse.
And, of course, it would require a newly-launched instance to know all Fediverse users. Again, with no exception.
How and from which source are they supposed to know
That said, there is a single sign-on system for the Fediverse. It's called . It was created by Mike Macgirvin (creator of Friendica and all its descendants) in the late 2010s already for now-defunct , a fork (of a fork) of which, in turn, is a fork of the currently hyped Facebook alternative . It was backported to Hubzilla in 2020. Everything that came after Zap, including the still existing , got it, too.
However, first of all, OpenWebAuth is only fully implemented on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte. Plus, it has client-side support on Friendica. This means that Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte recognise logins on all four, but Friendica doesn't recognise logins from anywhere.
As for Mastodon, OpenWebAuth implementation was actually developed to the point of an official merge request in Mastodon's GitHub repository. As far as I know, it was rejected. Mastodon won't implement OpenWebAuth, full stop.
Besides, it doesn't give you all the same power as a local user. You can't log into Friendica, go to a Hubzilla hub and create a wiki or a webpage or a CalDAV calendar, just like so.
OpenWebAuth is only for guest permissions. Because on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, permissions are everything.
For example, let's assume you have an account and a channel on (streams). Let's also assume that your (streams) channel and this Hubzilla channel of mine here are connected. Furthermore, let's assume that I've decided to only allow my own full connections to see my profile.
If you're logged out, and you go to my profile page, you see nothing.
But then you log in. And you come back to my profile page (provided your browser is configured so that the Hubzilla hub that I call home is allowed to create cookies). My home hub recognises your login on (streams). It identifies you as you, as one of my contacts. Thus, it identifies you as someone who is permitted to see my profile.
And all of a sudden, you see my profile.
That, for example, is what OpenWebAuth is for.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Zap #Streams #(streams) #Forte #SingleSignOn #OpenWebAuth Friendica has only got client-side support, i.e. Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte recognise Friendica logins, but Friendica doesn't recognise any logins.
Also, the instance that you visit while logged in must accept cookies. And if you're using Firefox and containers, the instance that you're logged in on and the instance that you visit must be in the same container.
But in general, this is technology from the late 2010s. Zap was declared stable with it in 2019. It was backported to Hubzilla in 2020, and it was immediately made available on everything that came after Zap.
At least for me, it generally works like a charm. Both Hubzilla and (streams) instances recognise my Hubzilla login if all precautions are met.
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You can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon.
You can follow Instagram accounts from Mastodon.
You can follow PeerTube channels from Mastodon.
You can follow Mastodon accounts from Friendica.
You can follow Instagram accounts from Friendica.
You can follow PeerTube channels from Friendica.
And so forth.
. And it's all connected with each other just the same. I mean, what if I told you that this comment comes to you, to Mastodon, not from Mastodon, but from something called that has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon
What's absolutely unthinkable outside the Fediverse (being on Twitter and following Facebook users or YouTube channels from there, and Facebook users replying to your tweets from Facebook) is totally normal in the Fediverse. It's part of what makes the Fediverse the Fediverse.
CC:
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Hubzilla has a permission setting named "Can source/mirror my public posts in derived channels". It has been there since 2012 when Hubzilla was still a fledgling project named Red, that's 13 years now.
Whether someone may quote-post ("share") your public posts depends on the setting in the channel role. If your channel is set to "Public", I think everyone is allowed to share your public posts. If it's set to "Private", you can (and have to) grant that permission to your connections individually by contact role. Those whom you aren't connected to are not allowed to share any of your posts.
The "Custom" channel role lets you choose between granting that permission, one out of 17 permissions, to:
(streams) goes even further. As far as I know, it doesn't give you the option to let everyone quote-post any of your posts in the first place. Not only are you always opted out to the point that only you yourself may quote-post your posts, but you can't even fully opt in.
No matter if your channel type is "Social - Public" or "Social - Restricted", the only ones who are allowed to quote-post even only your public posts are those of your connections who get the permission from you. Unlike on Hubzilla, however, you don't have to fumble around with permission roles, although you may do so to speed things up. You've also got a dedicated switch for this permission on each connection labelled "Grant permission to republish/mirror your posts".
This permission has its strongest effect on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte: If one of their users is not allowed to share one of your posts, the Share button is missing altogether. And there's no real way around the Share button.
In fact, the Repeat button is missing, too. If you aren't allowed to quote-post it, you aren't allowed to boost it either. This permission is not about how you may forward someone's content, but whether you may forward it.
Unfortunately, Fediverse users probably everywhere else are not affected by this permission. Users of Pleroma, Misskey and their respective forks can still quote-post you to their heart's content. And I've got my doubts that Mastodon will understand this permission when it introduces quote-posts.
Then again, it's highly likely that Mastodon's quote-post opt-in or opt-out won't work outside of Mastodon either.
If you really want to be safe, you've additionally got the option to not post in public. Any post that isn't public can neither be repeated (boosted) nor shared (quote-posted).
Both Hubzilla and (streams) give you the option to send a post to the members of a privacy group/access list (think Mastodon list on coke and 'roids), to a specific group/forum or to any individual selection of connections of yours. (streams) also has Mastodon's option to send a post to all your connections Hubzilla can emulate that with a privacy group with all your connections in it.
Okay, your post will lose a whole lot of reach. But this is a trick that even Mastodon understands in a certain way: If a post from Hubzilla or (streams) has a restricted audience, Mastodon takes it for a PM. And you can't boost PMs, can you
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But my own current standards for myself require me to invest several hours into description and explanation for a meme post based on a standard template. For one of my original images, I would need two days now. I would because I can't properly describe at least some of my old images. They're pictures of the past. What they show is no longer there. This means that I can no longer source all the detail informations necessary for an image description on my current level.
In fact, my current level, my current standard isn't even really defined. I'm working on a new series of image posts, I have been since last year. And I may or may not try something new, namely long image descriptions (not to be confused with the short image descriptions in the alt-texts) in little HTML files linked into the post. As long as I don't know if that's actually better than putting the long descriptions directly into the post, inflating it to a titanic size, I can't touch older posts anyway.
That is, if I added a full set of image descriptions to each one of my oldest images, I would also have to go and upgrade my more recent image descriptions to my current standard. I don't want the quality of my image descriptions to tank at some point two years ago.
While I'm at it, I'd generally have to upgrade all my old posts in several ways. Placement of hashtags. Choice of hashtags, especially filter-triggering hashtags. Mastodon-style content warnings in the summary field, along with summaries, especially for any and all posts and comments that exceed 500 characters.
Trouble is, Mastodon doesn't understand edits from Hubzilla. All posts would go out to my hundreds of Mastodon connections on countless instances once more as brand-new. This would be extra awkward for posts about events that were years ago.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Hashtag #Hashtags #HashtagMeta #CWHashtagMeta #CW #CWs #CWMeta #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #ContentWarningMeta Truth be told, what we could need is a feature comparison between the various mobile apps and Friendica's Web frontend to see what covers what.
I'm not quite sure if any Friendica app actually covers exactly 100% of Friendica's functionality. What they should cover is what's needed for daily driving. But I'm not sure if all of them cover, for example, all features of the built-in file manager and every last one of .
An actually, absoutely fully-featured Friendica app would be voluminous. Not as huge as a (streams) app and not as massive as a Hubzilla app, but big.
In the cases of some features, I'm not even sure how much sense they make in a mobile app. Would a mobile app need all configuration controls for the Web interface And does it make sense for an iPhone app to brandish the full set of Friendica admin controls if it detects the logged-in account to be an admin account
Besides, in spite of its old age, Friendica is constantly changing and sometimes introducing new features. Third-party apps will have to keep up with core and add-on development.
And once the now-growing Friendica community has settled in and attracted a few devs, and they discover that Friendica is so modular that it can attach third-party add-ons server-side, and they start developing third-party add-ons, mobile apps won't cover 100% of Friendica anymore anyway.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #FriendicaApp #FriendicaAppsA festival against the growing right wing has commenced in Dorenas World. It will continue over the weekend.
Line-up (all times PST/grid time)
Saturday, February 15th
09:30-10:00 - Lead-in with Klarabella Karamell
10:00-12:00 - Wolem Wobbit live (on-going)
12:00-13:00 - live
13:00-open end - DJ Xenos Yifu
Sunday, February 16th
07:30-09:00 - DJ Bogus Curry (ask me for his Fediverse ID)
09:00-11:00 - JohnWinston Vandyke live
11:00-12:00 - Reading with Kueperpunk Korhonen
12:00-13:00 - Rubeus Helgerud reads Wolfgang Borchert
13:00-open end - DJ battle between Klarabella Karamell and
Event location is the festival ground at .
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #OpenSim #OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #VirtualEvent #DorenasWorld #Politics #DEPol #AntiRightWing #AntiFascism Besides, Friendica has had quote-posts for almost 15 years as its primary method of sharing posts. It has continuously been federated with Mastodon for as long as Mastodon has been around. And stilll, there isn't a single known case of a Friendica user harassing a Mastodon user, or anyone else, by means of quote-post.
Just one example, the oldest one.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Friendica #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate with and exploring in on Den kann ich sogar noch ber.
It's underwhelming. It's underequipped. It lacks features that are standard just about everywhere else. It's actually hopelessly outdated. In fact, it's even insecure, also due to how it lacks security features that competitors have readily available. And it ignores officially defined standards and tries hard to force the whole FediverseWeb to adopt its own non-standard solutions instead.
At the same time, however, for many many users, it is the FediverseInternet, full stop.
For the vast majority of FediverseInternet users, it was the first Fediverse projectWeb browser they came across because that's what they were mouth-fed when they started with the FediverseInternet. For quite a long time, it was the only Fediverse projectWeb browser they even knew existed, and for many, it still is. Alternatives are only known to and used by the tech-savvy, and they're also the only ones who are aware of how dangerously lacking it is.
Thus, it has vastly more users than all its alternatives combined. Its market share is such that its developers don't even have to care for standards compatibility or what advantages the competition has. They can force their way upon everyone and everything.
Even many websites are built hard against only Mastodonthe Internet Explorer and malfunction or completely refuse to work with any of its alternatives, not seldomly because their developers don't even know that alternatives exist. And few developers dare to build websitesFediverse projects only according to HTMLActivityPub standards, even if that means breaking compatibility with Mastodonthe IE6.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Comparison #Fediverse #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #FediverseIsNotMastodon #InternetExplorer #InternetExplorer6 #IE6
(Selbst-Quote-Posten FTW! Man ist ja schreibfaul.)
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #QuotePost #QuoteTweet #QuoteToot #QuoteBoost #Fediverse #Mastodon #NichtNurMastodon #InternetExplorer #InternetExplorer6 #IE6 Und genau das wurde auf Twitter eingesetzt als Waffe gegen Angehrige von Minderheiten (BIPoC, 2SLGBTQQIA+ etc.). Im Grunde kennt man das als Twitter-User nur dafr.
Noch ein Grund, warum so viele von da nach Mastodon geflohen sind: weil Mastodon keine Quote-Posts/Drkos/Drukos hat.
Was aber kaum jemand auf Mastodon wei: Das Fediverse hat sehr wohl Quote-Posts. Praktisch alles, was Mikro- oder Makroblogging macht und nicht "Mastodon" heit, kann quote-posten. Und kann auch Mastodon-Trts quote-posten.
Aussage, die ich gerade bekommen habe: Hubzilla und (streams) htten nie die Mglichkeit haben drfen, Mastodon-Trts zu quote-posten, weil Mastodon sich gegen Quote-Posts entschieden hat.
Nur: Zum einen war 2016 das Nichtimplementieren von Quote-Posts keine Entscheidung zum Schutz von Twitter-Flchtlingen, sondern zum Vereinfachen von Mastodon. Zum anderen mten wahrscheinlich mehr als 60 Fediverse-Serveranwendungen fr Mastodon eine Ausnahme einbauen.
Was fr Twitter-Flchtlinge auf Mastodon auch vllig unvorstellbar ist: Quote-Posts sind in fast 15 Jahren Friendica nie mibruchlich genutzt worden. Und berall sonst, was Quote-Posts kann, auch nicht.
brigens ist auch das wieder so ein Fall, wo Mastodon-Nutzer versuchen, dem gesamten Fediverse die Mastodon-Kultur aufzuzwingen und Features, die Mastodon nicht hat, wegzunehmen.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares
I mean, I could propose to Mike, Mario and Harald to automatically remove the Share button under any and all posts and comments from Mastodon, just to see their reactions.
But as a matter of fact, Pleroma and Akkoma can quote-post Mastodon toots just the same. The same goes for Misskey and its over 50 forks, including but not limited to JavaScript-based Iceshrimp which won't get any new features, Iceshrimp.NET which isn't officially released yet, Sharkey, CherryPick and Catodon. And Friendica can quote-post Mastodon toots, too.
Several dozen Fediverse server projects can quote-post Mastodon toots. They all would have to change. Or they all would have had to change the moment that it was decided that Mastodon lacks quote-posts to protect its users rather than to stay simple.
That has been Mastodon's track record since its very inception. I won't believe that anything has changed about this until Mastodon actually implements technology introduced by another Fediverse server project.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate It isn't just a matter of consent. Besides, for example, I do have quote-post control here on Hubzilla.
I can give permission to quote-post my posts to
Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to
It's much more a matter of technology.
Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out.
There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on.
Besides, Mike Macgirvin , creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for Mario Vavti and Harald Eilertsen, Hubzilla's main maintainers.
If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
And that, too, will only work within Mastodon.
Also, that, too, won't be a "Mastodon first" feature. At least Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte have reply and interaction controls included in their permissions systems which, in a way, work Fediverse-wide.
Within themselves and each other, they actually make impossible what isn't allowed. For example, if you aren't allowed to repeat (= boost) or share (= quote-post) a post or a comment, you don't even have the button. These permissions aren't understood anywhere outside these three yet, but I've got higher hopes that this permissions system will be cast into FEPs than that Mastodon's hacks will be.
In fact, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte have reply control on three levels:
Again, within these three, if commenting is not allowed, the UI elements for commenting will be missing. Outsiders may be able to comment, but all three block disallowed comments on a server level, i.e. they aren't deleted from the inbox, they are kept from entering the inbox in the first place. And so they don't appear in the thread for all those who support threaded conversations.
It'd really be nice if this permissions system became one or a set of FEPs for others to pick up.
CC:
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #ReplyControls
Starting a new "mini-" series if you will here. This one was done in February 12th, as I had a night walk to the nearby traffic light (carrying my tripod and camera), planning to do some long exposures. Generally speaking, the results weren't up to my expectations, but I managed to salvage some shots.
For this shoot, I've used Voigtlnder 20mm, coupled with a variable ND filter (yes, ND, at night, for long exposure), and "Starry Night" filter from Kenko. This filter is supposedly used to reduce the light pollution, and seems awkward to use it in such situations, but I just wanted to try, since I've never used this one before even though I got it months ago. This filter also has a bluish tint, and I had to set the white balance properly (using WB correction tool) and despite all of that, processing the images in terms of colors was a bit of a task, especially in terms of the color halos (or bleeding), which eventually, I had to make peace with! The exposure for this one was about 7 minutes. What's strange though, cars didn't pass by much when I shoot such long exposures, but only after I finish them!
New COVID study, of dozens of countries, from before COVID to now, shows life expectancies dropped and have not recovered.
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Today is one of those days on which simply too much happens in the Hypergrid at the same time.There's in ZetaWorlds which starts in a bit over an hour and a half.
There's the in the Wolf Territories.
There's an unlisted St. David's Day Dance on the Welsh sim in Speculoos Grid.
Not to mention a whole lot of more or less regular events.
Maybe we'll do some event hopping today.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #OpenSim #OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #Hypergrid #VirtualEvent #ZetaWorlds #WolfTerritories #WolfTerritoriesGrid #WolfGrid #WTGrid #Speculoos #OpenSimWorldsFair #StDavidsDay #DyddGwylDewiHapus #ZeroDiscriminationDayToday is one of those days on which simply too much happens in the Hypergrid at the same time.
There's in ZetaWorlds which starts in a bit over an hour and a half.
There's the in the Wolf Territories.
There's an unlisted St. David's Day Dance on the Welsh sim in Speculoos Grid.
Not to mention a whole lot of more or less regular events.
Maybe we'll do some event hopping today.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #OpenSim #OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #Hypergrid #VirtualEvent #ZetaWorlds #WolfTerritories #WolfTerritoriesGrid #WolfGrid #WTGrid #Speculoos #OpenSimWorldsFair #StDavidsDay #DyddGwylDewiHapus #ZeroDiscriminationDay
Wie schn, dass ihr streiten und trotzdem hinterher Bier trinken knnt und verschiedene Sichtweisen nebeneinander existieren drfen.
Das tun wir ja nicht mit denselben Leuten.
"Bier trinken" tun wir mit Leuten, die offen fr das ganze Fediverse sind, wie und , die ja selbst nicht nur auf Mastodon sind, sondern unter Doris und Steffen auch auf Hubzilla. Und Hubzilla ist technologisch wie auch kulturell das diametrale Gegenteil von Mastodon.
"Streiten" tun wir mit denen, die darauf beharren, da das Fediverse nur Mastodon ist. Da Mastodon ein in sich geschlossenes Netzwerk ist und alle, die das bestreiten, in aller ffentlichkeiti als ahnungslose Idioten beschimpfen (was so tatschlich mit einem Tech-Journalisten passiert ist).
Mit Leuten, die Mastodon als Goldstandard im ganzen Fediverse ansehen und alles, was von Mastodon abweicht, als entweder kaputt oder konzeptionell falsch.
Mit Leuten, die mit aller Gewalt Mastodons Kultur (die erst Mitte 2022 von frischen Twitter-Flchtlingen auf Basis von Mastodon 3.x definiert wurde) im ganzen Fediverse durchdrcken wollen und damit andere Serveranwendungen ihrer eigenen, eigens auf sie zugeschnittenen und oftmals sogar lteren Kultur berauben wollen. Damit geht dann einher, da sie Nicht-Mastodon-Nutzern verbieten wollen, Features der von ihnen genutzten Software zu nutzen, nur weil Mastodon sie (standardmig) nicht hat.
Siehe wieder (Calckey, einige tausend Zeichen zur Verfgung), den ein Mastodon-Nutzer angeschnauzt hat, er soll geflligst entweder lange Posts (alles ber 500 Zeichen) in Schnipsel von maximal 500 Zeichen zerschneiden oder sich aus dem Fediverse verpissen. Doch, das ist ganz genau so passiert.
Man stt ja schon auf vehemente Widerstnde, wenn Leute, die nur Mastodon kennen und das ganze Fediverse nur durch die Mastodon-Brille sehen, der felsenfesten Ansicht sind, sie htten einen absolut objektiven und ungetrbten Blick auf das Fediverse. Die allermeisten Mastodon-Nutzer beharren darauf, da Nicht-Mastodon-Nutzer im Fediverse nicht diskriminiert oder ausgegrenzt werden, whrend sie selbst fleiig Nicht-Mastodon-Nutzer diskriminieren. Es ist fr sie ganz einfach komplett unvorstellbar, da das Fediverse fr jemanden, der z. B. Anfang, Mitte der 2010er nach Friendica kam, irgendwie anders aussieht als fr jemanden, der irgendwann von 2022 bis 2024 nach Mastodon kam und nur Mastodon kennt.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #NichtNurMastodon #MastodonKultur #MastodonNormativitt
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There are also the "descendants" of Friendica, created as forks by Friendica's own creator over more than a dozen years now, which have even more advanced permissions systems.One is , a fork of Friendica from 2012. The other one is called by the community, and it's a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork) of Hubzilla from 2021.
I've made that compare Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) in a number of categories.
Hubzilla and (streams) give you the following possible target audiences for new posts:
- everyone on the Internet (Hubzilla, (streams))
- all your connections ((streams) only on Hubzilla, you can emulate this with a privacy group containing all your connections)
- only the members of one particular privacy group (Hubzilla)/access list ((streams)) (think "Mastodon's lists on coke and 'roids")
- only those to whom you've assigned a specific custom profile of your channel (Hubzilla like Friendica, it actually allows you to have multiple profiles and show them to specific connections so that they see different sides of you)
- only one specific group/forum (Hubzilla, (streams))
- only an impromptu selection of connections of yours (Hubzilla, (streams))
- only you yourself (Hubzilla, (streams))
The permissions systems of Hubzilla and (streams) are compatible to one another, i.e. one understands the permissions defined by the other. I'm not sure how well they and Friendica play with each other, though.
As for Mastodon: Any post that isn't public is understood by Mastodon as a DM and treated as such. Your contacts can't boost it, for example. The downside is that this kills any chances of meaningful discussions for Mastodon users.
So Hubzilla and (streams) have this advanced permissions system, and they understand threaded conversations and treat each one of these as an enclosed object with exactly one post and any number of comments. A thread always has and enforces consistent permissions all over, including all comments.
If you're on Hubzilla, and you send a post to Alice on Hubzilla and Bob on (streams), not only do both see your post, but both also automatically receive each other's comments, and they can comment on each other's comments.
Mastodon understands your post with restricted permissions as a DM. But Mastodon DMs only ever happen between two actors. This means: If Alice and Bob are on Mastodon, then both receive your post as a DM, but neither receives any comment from the other, and they can't comment on each other's comments either.
Also, fair warning ahead:
Neither of them is "Mastodon with some extra features". They're all very different from Mastodon. They all have steeper learning curves than Mastodon. Friendica's learning curve is significantly steeper than Mastodon's. (streams)' learning curve is quite another bit steeper than Friendica's because the permissions system is not optional, and not everything is public by default. Hubzilla has an even steeper learning curve.
Also, none of the three has a full set of dedicated native mobile apps. For Friendica, there are basically only Android apps. In the Apple App Store, there's nothing. Friendica can also be used with some Mastodon apps, but they only cover maybe 20% of Friendica's features, namely those that Mastodon has, too, so you'll be very, very limited. In fact, they do not cover any permission settings.
For Hubzilla and (streams), there are no phone apps at all. They don't support Mastodon apps either, and they never will. It simply wouldn't make sense because a Mastodon app would not cover important key features.
So if you're on an iPhone or iPad, or if you want to try Hubzilla or (streams), your only option is the Web interface, either in a browser or as a Progressive Web App. At least, all three have Web interfaces that adapt to mobile devices.
Lastly, you won't find (streams) on FediDB or Fediverse Observer. It's intentionally kept away from there, and it intentionally does not submit any stats. There are currently only two public, open-registration instances anyway, , with a German admin who also speaks English.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Facebook #FacebookAlternative Find the latitdue and longitude of any place Typischerweise versuchen Mastodon-Nutzer entweder, jemanden out-of-the-blue zu erwhnen, oder, jemandem out-of-the-blue eine DM zu schicken.
Und genau das geht beides nicht mit Friendica-Nutzern. Wenn du sie einfach so erwhnst, dann merken sie das in aller Regel nicht. Und eine DM kann man nur schicken an volle Verbindungen. Also:
- folgen.
- Warten, bis das Konto einem zurckfolgt.
- Zurckfolgen zulassen. Damit stellt Friendica die standardmige bidirektionale Verbindung her.
- Dann erst eine DM schicken.
Alternative: sich gleich an eine der Gruppen wenden, also entweder oder .
Das geht dann von Mastodon aus so:
- Gruppe folgen.
- Warten, bis die Gruppe einem zurckfolgt.
- Zurckfolgen zulassen.
- Gruppe anschreiben in diesem Format:
Threadtitel
helpersforum.friendi.ca
Post-Text
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica
Living a and life
A harmonious balance of physical, mental and emotional health
1. good habits
2. balanced lifestyle
3. positive mindset
4. nutritious diet rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and lean proteins
5. regular exercise
6. staying curious
7. continuous learning
8. maintaining a sense of purpose
Das ist ein Fork eines Forks dreier Forks eines Forks (eines Forks) von Hubzilla, aber vom Erfinder von Friendica und Hubzilla. Es ist moderner und praktischer in der Handhabung als Hubzilla und liegt von der Lernkurve her zwischen Friendica und Hubzilla.
Was dabei aber zu bedenken wre:
- Es gibt dafr ebensowenig Smartphone-Apps wie fr Hubzilla. Und es gibt ebensowenig Untersttzung fr Mastodon-Apps, weil das ebensowenig sinnvoll wre bei etwas, was so fundamental anders ist als Mastodon. Also Browser oder Progressive Web App.
- An Verbindungsmglichkeiten gibt's nur das hauseigene Nomad-Protokoll, das auch Hubzilla einschliet, und ActivityPub. Also nix diaspora*, nix RSS/Atom-Feeds abonnieren usw.
- Es gibt in ganz Europa nur eine einzige Instanz mit offener Registrierung: . Serverstandort ist Ungarn, aber der Admin ist ein ausgewanderter Deutscher, Der Pepe (nomd) (alias Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ), ein Hubzilla-Veteran, der auch Pepes Hubzilla-Sprechstunde und PepeCyBs Welt betreibt.
- Mit Dokumentation ist es auch noch nicht weit her. Pepe will noch eine schreiben, so, wie er die Hubzilla-Dokumentation auf Deutsch und Englisch komplett neu geschrieben hat.
- hnlicher wie Facebook als Friendica mit dem Bookface-Theme ist es auch nicht.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #FacebookAlternative #Streams #(streams)
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In both cases, I had the describe one of my images, always a rendering from within a 3-D virtual world. And then I compared it with a description of the same image of my own.
That said, I didn't compare the AI description with my short description in the alt-text. I went all the way and compared it with my long description in the post, tens of thousands of characters long, which includes extensive explanations of things that the average viewer is unlikely to be familiar with. This is what I consider the benchmark.
Also, I fed the image at the resolution at which I posted it, 800x533 pixels, to the AI. But I myself didn't describe the image by looking at the image. I described it by looking around in-world. If an AI can't zoom in indefinitely and look around obstacles, and it can't, it's actually a disadvantage on the side of the AI and not an unfair advantage on my side.
So without further ado, exhibit A:
contains
- an image with an alt-text that I've written myself (1,064 characters, including only 382 characters of description and 681 characters of explanation where the long description can be found),
- the image description that I had LLaVA generate for me (558 characters)
- my own long and detailed description (25,271 characters)
If you've got some more time, exhibit B:
Technically, all this is in one thread. But for your convenience, I'll link to the individual messages.
with
- an image with precisely 1,500 characters of alt-text, including 1,402 characters of visual description and 997 characters mentioning the long description in the post, all written by myself
- my own long and detailed image description (60,553 characters)
(1,120 characters I've asked for a detailed description).
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #AI #LLaVA #AIVsHuman #HumanVsAI
Damn I want to find out what that long, thin cock feels like when it hits my second hole.
Aside note:As far as I know, you can only send posts to a Friendica forum with an exclamation mark to have them forwarded to all members. But you cannot do that with comments, not in a conversation whose (start) post did not go to that forum.
On Friendica and all its descendants, a reply is never a stand-alone post. It's always a comment on another post.
Thus, mentioning a Friendica forum in a comment with an exclamation mark is futile.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #FediTips From what I've read, a digital photograph is considered the default. So for brevity reasons, it must not be mentioned.
Any other media must be mentioned, whether it's a painting, a screenshot from a social media app, a scanned analogue photograph, a flowchart, a CAD blueprint, a 3-D rendering or whatever.
But an alt-text must never start with "Image of", "Picture of" or "Photo of". That's considered bad style and a waste of characters and screen-reading time. If the medium is not mentioned, digital photograph falls into its place as a default.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta How conversations work is not unified all across the Fediverse. Even how connections work is not unified.
Mastodon has taken over the follower/followed principle from Twitter which is always illustrated with arrows with one point. A following B is illustrated with an arrow from A to B. A being followed by B is illustrated with an arrow from B to A. A and B following each other mutually is illustrated with one arrow from A to B and one arrow from B to A.
It appears to me that Friendica has adopted this to become more compatible with Mastodon. But its several descendants, created by Friendica's own creator, starting with Hubzilla, haven't.
Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte still have the bidirectional "connection" or "contact" as the default. It's illustrated with one arrow, but with one point on each end.
Also, all three understand a threaded conversation as an enclosed contruct entirely owned by the conversation starter. Everyone on these three who has the start post on their stream always actually has the whole thread on their stream.
In fact, all three have Conversation Containers implemented. This feature was in 2022. Forte has had it from the get-go as it started out as a fork of (streams). It was eventually turned into and backported to Hubzilla last year.
All three make sure that everyone who has a post on their stream also always has all comments on that post, at least those that are made after they have received the post.
This works on two basic principles:
- All comments go directly to the original poster because the original poster owns the thread.
- Those who have the post automatically receive all comments from the original poster.
In a pure Hubzilla/(streams)/Forte system, your above example would look like this:
- User 1 and User 2 are connected.
- User 1 and User 3 are connected. (This doesn't even matter.)
- User 2 and User 3 are connected.
- User 2 and User 4 are connected.
Now, the conversation works like this.
- User 2 sends a public post, thus creating a Conversation Container of which they are the owner.
User 1, User 3 and User 4 receive the post. - User 3 comments on User 2's post.
The comment goes from User 3 to User 2, who is the owner of the conversation, and it is automatically forwarded to User 1 and User 4 who already have User 2's post on their streams. - User 4 comments on User 3's comment.
The comment goes from User 4 past User 3 straight to User 2, who is the owner of the conversation, and it is automatically forwarded to User 1 and User 3 who already have User 2's post on their streams.
On Mastodon, for comparison, everything depends on who follows whom, who mentions whom and whose instance knows whose instance.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Conversations #FEP171b #ConversationContainersIn general, you've got two options.
If you don't add a title, Friendica sends the post as a Note-type object. Mastodon will show it with only basic text formatting, i.e. no tables, no horizontal lines, no custom typeface, no text size, no colour, numbered lists converted to bullet-point lists.
As for the images, Mastodon will not show any images within the post. It will show the first four as file attachments below the post, and it will completely ignore the rest because it can't handle more then four file attachments. Even this only works because Friendica, like its descendants, sends images both embedded in the the post and as file attachments. Still, Mastodon throws away all attached images except for four.
If you do add a title, Friendica sends the post as an Article-type object by default. (You can configure Friendica to send posts with titles as Note-type objects as well.) But Mastodon currently still refuses to render Article-type objects. Instead, it just shows the title and a link to the original. The reason for this is a somewhat longer story that involves Mastodon, and some headbutting between their creators and then-developers over full HTML rendering.
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You cannot only follow Friendica accounts from Friendica. Neither can you only follow Mastodon accounts from Mastodon.
You can actually follow Mastodon accounts from Friendica. And vice versa, you can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon.
In fact, you can follow just about anyone anywhere in the Fediverse from both Mastodon and Friendica. For .
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My definition of "living under a rock":is rapidly growing from people who escape from Facebook.
is outright exploding from people who escape from Instagram.
But you still believe that is only Mastodon because even the mere existence of Friendica or Pixelfed or still hasn't made it into your little Mastodon bubble yet.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Friendica #Pixelfed #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse Because if you want full-blown user rights and all the same features as a local user on all over 30,000 Fediverse instances, you need a local user account on each one of them.
This means two things:
- If you come over to the Fediverse for the first time, and you register your first account on Mastodon, you automatically also register an account on 30,000+ more instances.
- If you decide to host your own instance of whatever, and you spin it up for the first time, your instance immediately creates tens of millions of user accounts. One for everyone who has ever joined the Fediverse. Because anyone may decide to come over to your instance and use it, just like so.
For one, this is utter overkill.
Besides, this is technologically impossible. This would require all Fediverse instances to know all other Fediverse instances. With no exceptions. Like, if I start up my own (streams) instance for the first time, and half a second later, someone on the other side of the globe starts up a Gancio instance, they would immediately have to know each other. And all the other instances in the Fediverse.
And, of course, it would require a newly-launched instance to know all Fediverse users. Again, with no exception.
How and from which source are they supposed to know
That said, there is a single sign-on system for the Fediverse. It's called . It was created by Mike Macgirvin (creator of Friendica and all its descendants) in the late 2010s already for now-defunct , a fork (of a fork) of which, in turn, is a fork of the currently hyped Facebook alternative . It was backported to Hubzilla in 2020. Everything that came after Zap, including the still existing , got it, too.
However, first of all, OpenWebAuth is only fully implemented on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte. Plus, it has client-side support on Friendica. This means that Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte recognise logins on all four, but Friendica doesn't recognise logins from anywhere.
As for Mastodon, OpenWebAuth implementation was actually developed to the point of an official merge request in Mastodon's GitHub repository. As far as I know, it was rejected. Mastodon won't implement OpenWebAuth, full stop.
Besides, it doesn't give you all the same power as a local user. You can't log into Friendica, go to a Hubzilla hub and create a wiki or a webpage or a CalDAV calendar, just like so.
OpenWebAuth is only for guest permissions. Because on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, permissions are everything.
For example, let's assume you have an account and a channel on (streams). Let's also assume that your (streams) channel and this Hubzilla channel of mine here are connected. Furthermore, let's assume that I've decided to only allow my own full connections to see my profile.
If you're logged out, and you go to my profile page, you see nothing.
But then you log in. And you come back to my profile page (provided your browser is configured so that the Hubzilla hub that I call home is allowed to create cookies). My home hub recognises your login on (streams). It identifies you as you, as one of my contacts. Thus, it identifies you as someone who is permitted to see my profile.
And all of a sudden, you see my profile.
That, for example, is what OpenWebAuth is for.
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Also, the instance that you visit while logged in must accept cookies. And if you're using Firefox and containers, the instance that you're logged in on and the instance that you visit must be in the same container.
But in general, this is technology from the late 2010s. Zap was declared stable with it in 2019. It was backported to Hubzilla in 2020, and it was immediately made available on everything that came after Zap.
At least for me, it generally works like a charm. Both Hubzilla and (streams) instances recognise my Hubzilla login if all precautions are met.
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You can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon.
You can follow Instagram accounts from Mastodon.
You can follow PeerTube channels from Mastodon.
You can follow Mastodon accounts from Friendica.
You can follow Instagram accounts from Friendica.
You can follow PeerTube channels from Friendica.
And so forth.
. And it's all connected with each other just the same. I mean, what if I told you that this comment comes to you, to Mastodon, not from Mastodon, but from something called that has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon
What's absolutely unthinkable outside the Fediverse (being on Twitter and following Facebook users or YouTube channels from there, and Facebook users replying to your tweets from Facebook) is totally normal in the Fediverse. It's part of what makes the Fediverse the Fediverse.
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hat tip John Oliver, Last Week Tonight. He's praising the resignation letter where she wrote "I expect you will find someone who is enough of a fool or enough of a coward to file your motion, but it was never going to be me" & he says she may as well have added "bitch" to the end. Clippy was twisted in a good way!
is Clippy
Hubzilla
Hubzilla has a permission setting named "Can source/mirror my public posts in derived channels". It has been there since 2012 when Hubzilla was still a fledgling project named Red, that's 13 years now.
Whether someone may quote-post ("share") your public posts depends on the setting in the channel role. If your channel is set to "Public", I think everyone is allowed to share your public posts. If it's set to "Private", you can (and have to) grant that permission to your connections individually by contact role. Those whom you aren't connected to are not allowed to share any of your posts.
The "Custom" channel role lets you choose between granting that permission, one out of 17 permissions, to:
- everyone in the Fediverse
- everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)
- everyone on your home hub
- unconfirmed and confirmed connections
- confirmed connections
- only those whom you individually grant that permission
- nobody but you
(streams)
(streams) goes even further. As far as I know, it doesn't give you the option to let everyone quote-post any of your posts in the first place. Not only are you always opted out to the point that only you yourself may quote-post your posts, but you can't even fully opt in.
No matter if your channel type is "Social - Public" or "Social - Restricted", the only ones who are allowed to quote-post even only your public posts are those of your connections who get the permission from you. Unlike on Hubzilla, however, you don't have to fumble around with permission roles, although you may do so to speed things up. You've also got a dedicated switch for this permission on each connection labelled "Grant permission to republish/mirror your posts".
The effect
This permission has its strongest effect on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte: If one of their users is not allowed to share one of your posts, the Share button is missing altogether. And there's no real way around the Share button.
In fact, the Repeat button is missing, too. If you aren't allowed to quote-post it, you aren't allowed to boost it either. This permission is not about how you may forward someone's content, but whether you may forward it.
Unfortunately, Fediverse users probably everywhere else are not affected by this permission. Users of Pleroma, Misskey and their respective forks can still quote-post you to their heart's content. And I've got my doubts that Mastodon will understand this permission when it introduces quote-posts.
Then again, it's highly likely that Mastodon's quote-post opt-in or opt-out won't work outside of Mastodon either.
Privacy as an extra line of defence
If you really want to be safe, you've additionally got the option to not post in public. Any post that isn't public can neither be repeated (boosted) nor shared (quote-posted).
Both Hubzilla and (streams) give you the option to send a post to the members of a privacy group/access list (think Mastodon list on coke and 'roids), to a specific group/forum or to any individual selection of connections of yours. (streams) also has Mastodon's option to send a post to all your connections Hubzilla can emulate that with a privacy group with all your connections in it.
Okay, your post will lose a whole lot of reach. But this is a trick that even Mastodon understands in a certain way: If a post from Hubzilla or (streams) has a restricted audience, Mastodon takes it for a PM. And you can't boost PMs, can you
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Echoes of Language
"A Long Way Home"
"Good! Go home, vamoose! And don't come back!"
These are all thats left of ours, the ones I came in with. , , from the 810th brigade got caught in the grinder, were in piss, sh*t, crap, and blood, Now were getting out of hell.
The surviving soldier shows those who survived.
Depends on the effort per post. It's one thing if it takes you no more than two minutes to describe one image, any image.But my own current standards for myself require me to invest several hours into description and explanation for a meme post based on a standard template. For one of my original images, I would need two days now. I would because I can't properly describe at least some of my old images. They're pictures of the past. What they show is no longer there. This means that I can no longer source all the detail informations necessary for an image description on my current level.
In fact, my current level, my current standard isn't even really defined. I'm working on a new series of image posts, I have been since last year. And I may or may not try something new, namely long image descriptions (not to be confused with the short image descriptions in the alt-texts) in little HTML files linked into the post. As long as I don't know if that's actually better than putting the long descriptions directly into the post, inflating it to a titanic size, I can't touch older posts anyway.
That is, if I added a full set of image descriptions to each one of my oldest images, I would also have to go and upgrade my more recent image descriptions to my current standard. I don't want the quality of my image descriptions to tank at some point two years ago.
While I'm at it, I'd generally have to upgrade all my old posts in several ways. Placement of hashtags. Choice of hashtags, especially filter-triggering hashtags. Mastodon-style content warnings in the summary field, along with summaries, especially for any and all posts and comments that exceed 500 characters.
Trouble is, Mastodon doesn't understand edits from Hubzilla. All posts would go out to my hundreds of Mastodon connections on countless instances once more as brand-new. This would be extra awkward for posts about events that were years ago.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Hashtag #Hashtags #HashtagMeta #CWHashtagMeta #CW #CWs #CWMeta #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #ContentWarningMeta Truth be told, what we could need is a feature comparison between the various mobile apps and Friendica's Web frontend to see what covers what.
I'm not quite sure if any Friendica app actually covers exactly 100% of Friendica's functionality. What they should cover is what's needed for daily driving. But I'm not sure if all of them cover, for example, all features of the built-in file manager and every last one of .
An actually, absoutely fully-featured Friendica app would be voluminous. Not as huge as a (streams) app and not as massive as a Hubzilla app, but big.
In the cases of some features, I'm not even sure how much sense they make in a mobile app. Would a mobile app need all configuration controls for the Web interface And does it make sense for an iPhone app to brandish the full set of Friendica admin controls if it detects the logged-in account to be an admin account
Besides, in spite of its old age, Friendica is constantly changing and sometimes introducing new features. Third-party apps will have to keep up with core and add-on development.
And once the now-growing Friendica community has settled in and attracted a few devs, and they discover that Friendica is so modular that it can attach third-party add-ons server-side, and they start developing third-party add-ons, mobile apps won't cover 100% of Friendica anymore anyway.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #FriendicaApp #FriendicaAppsA festival against the growing right wing has commenced in Dorenas World. It will continue over the weekend.
Line-up (all times PST/grid time)
Saturday, February 15th
09:30-10:00 - Lead-in with Klarabella Karamell
10:00-12:00 - Wolem Wobbit live (on-going)
12:00-13:00 - live
13:00-open end - DJ Xenos Yifu
Sunday, February 16th
07:30-09:00 - DJ Bogus Curry (ask me for his Fediverse ID)
09:00-11:00 - JohnWinston Vandyke live
11:00-12:00 - Reading with Kueperpunk Korhonen
12:00-13:00 - Rubeus Helgerud reads Wolfgang Borchert
13:00-open end - DJ battle between Klarabella Karamell and
Event location is the festival ground at .
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #OpenSim #OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #VirtualEvent #DorenasWorld #Politics #DEPol #AntiRightWing #AntiFascism Besides, Friendica has had quote-posts for almost 15 years as its primary method of sharing posts. It has continuously been federated with Mastodon for as long as Mastodon has been around. And stilll, there isn't a single known case of a Friendica user harassing a Mastodon user, or anyone else, by means of quote-post.
Just one example, the oldest one.
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Yes, it's that bad
I've read an interesting comparison the other day: Mastodon is the Internet Explorer 6 of the Fediverse.It's underwhelming. It's underequipped. It lacks features that are standard just about everywhere else. It's actually hopelessly outdated. In fact, it's even insecure, also due to how it lacks security features that competitors have readily available. And it ignores officially defined standards and tries hard to force the whole FediverseWeb to adopt its own non-standard solutions instead.
At the same time, however, for many many users, it is the FediverseInternet, full stop.
For the vast majority of FediverseInternet users, it was the first Fediverse projectWeb browser they came across because that's what they were mouth-fed when they started with the FediverseInternet. For quite a long time, it was the only Fediverse projectWeb browser they even knew existed, and for many, it still is. Alternatives are only known to and used by the tech-savvy, and they're also the only ones who are aware of how dangerously lacking it is.
Thus, it has vastly more users than all its alternatives combined. Its market share is such that its developers don't even have to care for standards compatibility or what advantages the competition has. They can force their way upon everyone and everything.
Even many websites are built hard against only Mastodonthe Internet Explorer and malfunction or completely refuse to work with any of its alternatives, not seldomly because their developers don't even know that alternatives exist. And few developers dare to build websitesFediverse projects only according to HTMLActivityPub standards, even if that means breaking compatibility with Mastodonthe IE6.
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(Selbst-Quote-Posten FTW! Man ist ja schreibfaul.)
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Noch ein Grund, warum so viele von da nach Mastodon geflohen sind: weil Mastodon keine Quote-Posts/Drkos/Drukos hat.
Was aber kaum jemand auf Mastodon wei: Das Fediverse hat sehr wohl Quote-Posts. Praktisch alles, was Mikro- oder Makroblogging macht und nicht "Mastodon" heit, kann quote-posten. Und kann auch Mastodon-Trts quote-posten.
Aussage, die ich gerade bekommen habe: Hubzilla und (streams) htten nie die Mglichkeit haben drfen, Mastodon-Trts zu quote-posten, weil Mastodon sich gegen Quote-Posts entschieden hat.
Nur: Zum einen war 2016 das Nichtimplementieren von Quote-Posts keine Entscheidung zum Schutz von Twitter-Flchtlingen, sondern zum Vereinfachen von Mastodon. Zum anderen mten wahrscheinlich mehr als 60 Fediverse-Serveranwendungen fr Mastodon eine Ausnahme einbauen.
Was fr Twitter-Flchtlinge auf Mastodon auch vllig unvorstellbar ist: Quote-Posts sind in fast 15 Jahren Friendica nie mibruchlich genutzt worden. Und berall sonst, was Quote-Posts kann, auch nicht.
brigens ist auch das wieder so ein Fall, wo Mastodon-Nutzer versuchen, dem gesamten Fediverse die Mastodon-Kultur aufzuzwingen und Features, die Mastodon nicht hat, wegzunehmen.
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Mastodon decided against quote posts so far, so Hubzilla and (streams) should not allow quoting Mastodon posts.
I mean, I could propose to Mike, Mario and Harald to automatically remove the Share button under any and all posts and comments from Mastodon, just to see their reactions.
But as a matter of fact, Pleroma and Akkoma can quote-post Mastodon toots just the same. The same goes for Misskey and its over 50 forks, including but not limited to JavaScript-based Iceshrimp which won't get any new features, Iceshrimp.NET which isn't officially released yet, Sharkey, CherryPick and Catodon. And Friendica can quote-post Mastodon toots, too.
Several dozen Fediverse server projects can quote-post Mastodon toots. They all would have to change. Or they all would have had to change the moment that it was decided that Mastodon lacks quote-posts to protect its users rather than to stay simple.
And where are you reading that Mastodon will reinvent the wheel To me it reads like they are working on Fediverse-wide interoperability for these features.
That has been Mastodon's track record since its very inception. I won't believe that anything has changed about this until Mastodon actually implements technology introduced by another Fediverse server project.
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I can give permission to quote-post my posts to
- everyone in the Fediverse
- everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)
- everyone on this hub
- approved and unapproved connections
- only approved connections
- only those of my connections whom I explicitly give permission by contact role
- nobody but myself
Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to
- everyone in the Fediverse
- all my connections
- only myself + specific connections whom I grant that permission either by permission role or by individual connection settings
It's much more a matter of technology.
Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out.
There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on.
Besides, Mike Macgirvin , creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for Mario Vavti and Harald Eilertsen, Hubzilla's main maintainers.
If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway.
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And yes, I hope better reply/interaction controls are coming soon, I know some of that is planned right after quote posts are finished. Really can't wait to see that!
And that, too, will only work within Mastodon.
Also, that, too, won't be a "Mastodon first" feature. At least Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte have reply and interaction controls included in their permissions systems which, in a way, work Fediverse-wide.
Within themselves and each other, they actually make impossible what isn't allowed. For example, if you aren't allowed to repeat (= boost) or share (= quote-post) a post or a comment, you don't even have the button. These permissions aren't understood anywhere outside these three yet, but I've got higher hopes that this permissions system will be cast into FEPs than that Mastodon's hacks will be.
In fact, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte have reply control on three levels:
- channel-wide (who is generally allowed to reply Hubzilla has eight levels, (streams) and Forte have three)
- for individual connections
- per post (on Hubzilla, commenting on a post can be disallowed altogether on (streams) and Forte, additionally, commenting can be limited to your full connections, and a time can be defined from which commenting will no longer be allowed)
Again, within these three, if commenting is not allowed, the UI elements for commenting will be missing. Outsiders may be able to comment, but all three block disallowed comments on a server level, i.e. they aren't deleted from the inbox, they are kept from entering the inbox in the first place. And so they don't appear in the thread for all those who support threaded conversations.
It'd really be nice if this permissions system became one or a set of FEPs for others to pick up.
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