Evening Calm at Jokulsarlon by Vagelis
Evening Calm at Jokulsarlon by Vagelis Pikoulas
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Kampagnen auch nicht-kommerzielle sind im Fediverse schwierig.
Sagen wir mal so: Sie sind auf Mastodon schwierig. Woanders, wo es a) ein vernnftiges Konversationsmodell und b) Gruppen gibt, wren sie einfacher.
Nur macht Mastodon immer noch um die 60% des Fediverse aus und geschtzt 80-90% des deutschsprachigen Fediverse. Der Postverkehr auf Mastodon selbst wirkt sogar wie zu 95-99% von Mastodon. Und der berwiegende Teil der Mastodon-Nutzer wei fast oder tatschlich gar nichts vom Fediverse jenseits von Mastodon.
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Er hatte einfach eine zu groe Zielgruppenberschneidung mit dem Fediverse. Als Musk Twitter bernommen hat, ist seine effektive Followerzahl schlagartig eingebrochen.
Ein kluger Mensch htte dann Twitter und das Fediverse bespielt und so a) die abgewanderten Follower wiedergewonnen und b) noch mehr Follower gewonnen, die bis dahin gar nicht auf Twitter waren.
Sascha Lobo hat statt dessen ber das Fediverse gemotzt, um seine von Twitter nach Mastodon abgewanderten Follower alle dazu zu bringen, wieder in Vollzeit nach Twitter zurckzukehren und wieder schn seine speichelleckenden Claqueure zu werden.
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Alt-text must never include explanations, author credits, license information or other additional information that is not available in the post text or the image!
Why
Because not everyone can access alt-text. Sighted people need a mouse/trackball/touchpad/trackpoint to access alt-text or a touch screen if the UI allows for that.
And in order to operate that, they need at least one working hand. But not everyone has working hands. Just like not everyone has working eyes, which is why you describe your images in the first place, right
For those who can't access alt-text, any information only available in alt-text and neither in the post text nor in the image itself is inaccessible and permanently lost. They can't open it, they can't read it. Ever.
This means: Explanations and additional information must always go into the post itself where everyone can access them!
Here are three relevant pages in my (very early WIP) wiki about image descriptions and alt-text:
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Alt-Text your images for:
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Alt-text must never include explanations or other additional information that is not available in the post text or the image!
Why
Because not everyone can access alt-text. Sighted people need a mouse/trackball/touchpad/trackpoint to access alt-text or a touch screen if the UI allows for that.
And in order to operate that, they need at least one working hand. But not everyone has working hands. Just like not everyone has working eyes, which is why you describe your images in the first place, right
For those who can't access alt-text, any information only available in alt-text and neither in the post text nor in the image itself is inaccessible and permanently lost. They can't open it, they can't read it. Ever.
This means: Explanations and additional information must always go into the post itself where everyone can access them!
Here are three relevant pages in my (very early WIP) wiki about image descriptions and alt-text:
# # # # # # # # # # I guess nobody on Mastodon except you will ever read this due to how Mastodon handles conversations (namely not at all), but:
Alt-text must never include explanations or other additional information that is not available in the post text or the image!
Why
Because not everyone can access alt-text. Sighted people need a mouse/trackball/touchpad/trackpoint to access alt-text or a touch screen if the UI allows for that.
And in order to operate that, they need at least one working hand. But not everyone has working hands. Just like not everyone has working eyes, which is why you describe your images in the first place, right
For those who can't access alt-text, any information only available in alt-text and neither in the post text nor in the image itself is inaccessible and permanently lost. They can't open it, they can't read it. Ever.
This means: Explanations and additional information must always go into the post itself where everyone can access them!
Here are three relevant pages in my (very early WIP) wiki about image descriptions and alt-text:
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Fukushimas Fabulous Unique Pagoda! Fukushimas Fabulous Unique Pagoda! Here comes Katie. I love just yoloing things and then finding like this. In this episode, we find a mys
Added to my image description wiki right now for people like you:Money quote in case you can't be bothered to open the link (or in case you don't even know it's a link because it isn't a URL in plain sight):
That's the same as refusing to add a wheelchair ramp to stairs as a store owner and instead demanding all wheelchair manufacturers build all their wheelchairs in such a way that they can roll up and down stairs. Where I come from, this is not only called "selfish", but also "ableist". This is every bit as bad as not describing your images at all and demanding all Fediverse software include some AI that automatically describes images.
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I would also be in favor of Fediblock for instances where this behavior is rampant.
Alt-text on images is only a thing on Mastodon and amongst Pixelfed users who are also on Mastodon.
Fediblocking entire servers for a too low quota of sufficiently accurate, sufficiently detailed, rule-conforming alt-text would end up defederating Mastodon from most of the rest of the Fediverse. It would end up in the Fediblocking of entire Fediverse server application types. Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, CherryPick, Sharkey, Catodon, Smithereen, snac, GoToSocial, Mitra, Socialhome, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, nodeBB, WordPress, Ghost, Flipboard, Plume and a whole lot of others would end up being defederated from Mastodon in their entirety because they don't have alt-text (and everyone upping their game in alt-text style, accuracy and level of detail) as an integral part of their culture.
Basically, from Mastodon's point of view, the Fediverse would end up actually being only Mastodon because Mastodon would have defederated with everything else, server by server.
I think I'm the only one on Hubzilla who actually describes their images. I'm definitely the only one amongst the few dozen (streams) users who does. But even if I put more time and effort into describing images than just about anyone else in the Fediverse, I think that wouldn't be enough to save either server application from being defederated from Mastodon in their entirety as long as not everyone else adds sufficiently accurate, sufficiently detailed, rule-conforming alt-texts to every last one of their images, as cumbersome as that may be on Hubzilla.
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Ich glaube, viel verpat man da nicht.hat sich Bonfire mal angeguckt. Die Posts und Konversationen dazu sind interessant:
Um es vorsichtig auszudrcken: Begeistert war er vorher schon nicht und hinterher noch weniger.
Nun mu man allerdings sagen: Wenn jemand von Mastodon kommt und im Fediverse kaum etwas anderes als Mastodon kennt, dann erscheint Bonfire als die absolute, ultimative eierlegende Wollmilchsau, als das Schweizer Taschenmesser des Fediverse, als der unbertreffliche Allesknner. Zumindest gem der offiziellen Hochglanz-Website. Da lt man sich dann leicht blenden, weil man noch nichts auch nur ansatzweise Vergleichbares jemals gesehen hat.
Ganz anders sieht das aber aus, wenn man als Daily Driver verwendet, und zwar schon sehr viel lnger daily-drivet, als 95% der Mastodon-Nutzer auf Mastodon sind.
Pepe daily-drivet Hubzilla schon ungefhr so lange, wie es Mastodon berhaupt gibt, also noch lnger als ich und im Gegensatz zu mir durchgngig. Er hat zwei eigene ffentliche Hubs, und den (und nebenher Europas einzigen ffentlichen -Server, ). Er reizt Hubzilla fast bis zum Gehtnichtmehr aus. und betreibt zustzlich die . Und er ist Teil der Speerspitze der deutschsprachigen Hubzilla-Szene und kmmert sich mit um den monatlichen Hubzilla-Workshop. Er wei also, wovon er schreibt.
Noch sehr viel anders sieht es aus, wenn man mit diesem Hintergrund Bonfire auch tatschlich ausprobiert. Das hat Pepe auch getan. Fazit siehe Links.
Um mich mal selbst zu quote-posten:
Ich sag's ja: Bonfire ist Hubzilla bei Wish bestellt. Und Solid auch.
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Der Witz ist: Bonfire hat eine ganze Menge Publicity, wirbt mit Wahnsinnsfeatures und zieht dabei besonders bei Mastodon-Nutzern. Tatschlich funktioniert es in der Praxis kaum richtig. Und so ziemlich alles, was Bonfire angeblich knnen soll, kann Hubzilla tatschlich, und zwar meistens schon seit etwa zehn Jahren, also lnger, als es auch nur Mastodon gibt. Und noch mehr oben drauf.
Wer sich auf Bonfire einlt, verplempert nur seine Zeit. Zeit, die meines Erachtens besser darin investiert ist, sich mit etwas anzufreunden, das auch wirklich funktioniert.
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Exactly because racism isn't solved with the flick of a switch, we need to make improvements where we can. Block lists and reply controls in Mastodon won't eliminate racism from the fediverse, but they can make some people's time here somewhat (or a lot) better.
Only if Mastodon devs consult with the rest of the Fediverse instead of surprising everyone with a solution that's incompatible with just about everything else.
See quote-posts and the quote-post opt-in. Mastodon's solution supposes that the whole Fediverse is Mastodon or at least works like Mastodon.
Users on Mastodon 4.5 or newer can set any of their posts to un-quote-post-able. But still, anyone on Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, CherryPick, Sharkey, Iceshrimp, Catodon, Mitra, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. can quote-post these self-same un-quote-post-able posts with zero resistance.
At the same time, users on Mastodon 4.5 or newer cannot quote-post anything that doesn't come from Mastodon because Mastodon expects there to be its own proprietary, non-standard quote-post opt-in.
It's easy from a Mastodon point of view to consider Mastodon the one and only gold standard in the Fediverse and point fingers at the non-Mastodon Fediverse. But don't forget that Friendica has had quote-posts for five and a half years longer than Mastodon has even existed and for over 15 years longer than Mastodon has had them.
By the way, while I don't know about Friendica, Hubzilla has reply control. It has had it probably since 2012. It has reply control features that go way beyond what even the Mastodon devs can imagine, much less what's technologically possible on Mastodon. And (streams) and Forte manage to go even further than their ancestor Hubzilla in terms of reply control.
So Mastodon will not introduce reply control to the Fediverse. It can't expect everything else in the Fediverse to adopt its own reply control technology, much less throw out their existing reply control technology in favour of Mastodon's.
There used to be FEP-5624 that was actually proposed by a Mastodon dev. that involved devs from all across the Fediverse, even the Hubzilla creator and (streams) and Forte maintainer. However, the FEP draft was probably abandoned in 2023 already and withdrawn two weeks ago.
The lesson learned for Mastodon may be that first introducing a FEP and discussing it in the community and with devs of stuff that's nothing like Mastodon leads nowhere, and the only way to get things done is to first build it into Mastodon, then maybe try to make it into a FEP and then demand the whole rest of the Fediverse adopt it or face being branded as broken by design.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # If technology was a solution against racism in the Fediverse, we'd now have a huge Black community on or , empowered to defend itself against racism, harassment and dogpiling with technological countermeasures that are light years away from Mastodon and unimaginable from a Mastodon point of view.
Alas, there is none. Not because nobody knows what Hubzilla can do, nobody knows that (streams) exists, and/or there is no native mobile app for either. But because the BIPoC in the Fediverse want racism in the Fediverse to disappear entirely.
They don't want new weapons to fight racism. They don't want strongholds to protect themselves against racism. Neither do they want to retreat into an existing stronghold, nor do they want a stronghold to be built around them. They want racism to simply no longer be there. The only feasible solution. Unrealistic, unfortunately, but without any good alternative.
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Do you mean ActivityPub That seems culturally opposed to search.
The general ActivityPub community isn't.
Large parts of the Mastodon community are. But a whole lot of things in the Fediverse that aren't Mastodon have had full-text search since their respective inception, some even since before Mastodon was made. And their users are okay with that or even happy about it.
The Fediverse is much more than Mastodon and stuff bolted onto Mastodon as an extra feature.
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Language has a chance of being an obstacle, too. If you want to get e.g. Japanese Forkey devs on board as well, chances are they don't speak English.
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Good news! now talks about followers only posts. If you are in the set of "Some applications create replies to followers-only posts addressed to the replier's followers collection", please fix it.
This. In fact, Fediverse server software that behaves correctly has been around since long before Mastodon was made.
In fact, replies should never go to whoever is replied to unless it's the conversation starter. Replies should always go to the conversation starter and from there to all participants in the conversation, and they should do so without having to visually mention all participants. Also, conversations should be shown as a whole by default always and everywhere and not as single-message piecemeal with no context.
And in an ideal Fediverse, this should go hand in hand with only the members of the
followers collection of the top-level post author being permitted to see a) the top-level post, b) any comments on the top-level post and c) any replies to comments in the first place. This would make sure that nobody who isn't intended as part of the audience will ever be able to see this content, also by making it technically impossible to repost/boost/repeat/share/otherwise forward anything in the conversation. But hardly anything in the Fediverse has the all-encompassing permissions system that's required to achieve this.# # # # # # # # # # # # # In my defence, I don't post cat photos or social media screenshots. I post either renderings from extremely obscure 3-D virtual worlds or memes about similarly obscure topics. Either way, extensive explanations are necessary for people to understand my image posts. And in the case of the renderings, so are detailed visual descriptions because I cannot rely on anyone knowing what anything in my images looks like. And I can reassure you that over the last few years.
The eight hours that I've mentioned led to 20,000 characters of image description for two images. These 20,000 characters went into the post text body, not into the alt-texts. The extra hour was for cutting alt-text descriptions down from these 20,000 characters in addition to these 20,000 characters in the post text. The alt-text of each image contains a little under 1,000 characters of description + a bit over 500 characters which announce the long descriptions in the post and explain how to find them. This means that each image is described twice.
In case you can't imagine what I'm talking about: (You'll have to click on the summary to see the post, then scroll down to the content warning spoiler tag way down the post and then click it to see the images.)
Also, it doesn't matter whether the majority of users may or may not need such a long description. Someone somewhere out there may actually need it, I can see why they may need it, and I've actually been thanked for even longer descriptions by people who needed them, if only a few times.
I will continue writing such long image descriptions as long as I don't have rock-solid written proof that the majority of Fediverse users is staunchly and decidedly against long image descriptions in posts, no matter how obscure and at the same time curiosity-inducing the topic may be, and not only because they're against posts that exceed 500 characters.
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I do alt text, but it's not low effort at all.
Same here.
In fact, I've had the image descriptions for a series of avatar portraits in the making since late 2024, and I may have to rework them again. Last time I've posted images was over a year ago, and it took me eight hours to describe two images plus one hour to distill shorter alt-text descriptions from the long descriptions.
But before I post an image without an appropriate description and appropriate explanations, I don't post any.
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# # # # # # # # # # # Besides, not everything in the Fediverse works like Mastodon anyway.
I'm on Hubzilla which is basically the exact opposite of Mastodon. Hubzilla does not support Mastodon-style starter packs, but it has a feature of its own that can serve as something similar: channel sources. You can select certain contacts of yours and have everything they post automatically reposted on your channel.
So the trick is to create a new channel ("account" on Mastodonish, only that it isn't a new account because it shares the same login with the channel that you already use it's a new, fully independent identity on the same account/login). You follow a bunch of Fediverse actors. You choose them as channel sources. And when someone else follows that new channel, they automatically receive all content from these channel sources. They can also choose to explicitly follow some of these Fediverse actors themselves.
I'd really like to see Mastodon users try to keep me from a) following their accounts and b) making their accounts channel sources. (By the way: Hubzilla users can keep other Hubzilla users from using their channels as channel sources. It's one out of many permission settings.)
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And even then, the FEP is likely to assume that literally the entire Fediverse either works like Mastodon or is utterly simple in functionality. And it's likely to cause headbutting with a certain developer who has created Fediverse software that's very powerful, very feature-rich and very, very much unlike Mastodon, several years before Mastodon. Because the Mastodon devs try to force some half-baked "permission" upon the Fediverse software with the most powerful, most advanced, most fine-grained permissions systems in existence.
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In case you're curious, .
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Create a new rendezvous and share the access link with those you wish to invite to the group. Those who open the link become members of the rendezvous. They can view other member locations, add markers to the map, or share their own locations with the group.
It probably ties in with OpenStreetMap .
However, Rendezvous is Hubzilla-exclusive. There is no counterpart to it anywhere on anything that's based on ActivityPub. So I guess it federates only via Zot and not via ActivityPub.
# # # # # # # # # # This is why I've started (occasionally) working on a wiki about how to describe images and write alt-texts specifically in and for the Fediverse. Not just a one-pager, but an entire wiki that will have about three dozen pages when it's done.
I'm sourcing various alt-text and image description guides that exist out there on the Web, and I cite them when necessary or appropriate. They may contradict each other, but I'm going to point that out as well. Still, I also point out when something that's valid for alt-texts on static websites or in blog posts is not valid for Fediverse posts.
I simply want to be able to tell people how to do it right. I often have to because people keep doing so much wrong. And I want to be able to do so without having to write my explanations directly into posts over and over and over again. Instead, I'll simply be able to link to the pages in my wiki.
It's a very early WIP, it's nowhere near completion, but if you're curious, , right on the same Hubzilla channel that I'm commenting from right now.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # If Mastodon had an actual permissions system on the same level as Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte instead of its usual snake oil, this wouldn't even work in the intended way.
The (streams)/Forte equivalent to "followers only" is "connections", and it also means that only your contacts are even allowed to view the post in the first place. If you mention someone in addition, they don't have permission to receive and view the post, so it's just a mention with a link to someone's profile and not a "hey, read this" tag.
On a sidenote: Hubzilla doesn't have an equivalent to "followers only". You'd have to build it yourself by making a privacy group (think "list on steroids") with all your contacts in it and then set the audience of a new post to that privacy group.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # Another thing where Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte truly shine, by the way.
First of all, Hubzilla distinguishes between a "contact" (someone has sent you a connection request) and an "approved contact" (either you've confirmed the connection request, thus creating what's a mutual follower/followed connection on Mastodon, or you've requested a connection request, and it has been confirmed). It's much like on Facebook. This distinction also exists in permissions: You can give certain permissions to contacts or only to approved contacts.
On (streams) and Forte, the concept of a non-approved contact doesn't exist unless the connection request is confirmed, it doesn't count as a contact, and it doesn't have the privileges of a contact. This means that nobody can acquire certain permissions simply by following you.
Next, even if someone is a contact of yours, doesn't mean that they're always permitted to send you their posts. You can configure your channel in such a way that you can only allow certain contacts of yours to send you posts. I've actually done that.
Also, on all three, being notified when someone who isn't a contact mentions you is off by default and has to be activated manually. Even then, it only works if their post that mentions you makes it onto the server that you're on. This isn't even a case of "they mention you, your channel receives the message, but you aren't notified". This is a case of "they mention you, but your channel outright rejects the message, and if no other channel on your server accepts it, the whole server rejects it".
This means the whole attack vector does not work, especially not against neatly configured channels. By default, you won't see any non-contact mention you out of the blue. And even if someone requests a connection, and you approve it and thereby establish a full, mutual connection, that doesn't mean that you have to endure what they post.
Oh, by the way: Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte understand Mastodon's "followers only" as "public" because it doesn't come with limited permissions, because Mastodon doesn't have a permissions system. And al three have had quote-posts since their inception. This gives you the power to fight back by quote-posting the offending post in a DM to the admin of the offender's home instance. And on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, the quote in a quote-post is not a reference by link it's a dumb copy of the original, inserted into the quoting post with a link to the original post and to the original poster, that cannot be altered by the original poster after the fact in any way.
Lastly, you can raise the shields even further, namely against harassment by DM. You don't have to accept DMs from non-contacts. You don't even have to accept DMs from all your contacts. You can literally cherry-pick those contacts from whom you want to receive DMs.
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"A Long Way Home"
But once again, there's this "Mastodon and the Fediverse", and once again with the same old meaning. "Mastodon" as in Mastodon the software and "Fediverse" as in the Mastodon network.
Another post that claims, no, insists that the Fediverse is literally Twitter with 500 characters because it only consists of Mastodon. Mastodon 3.x, actually, which hardly had any features that Twitter didn't have. But take a look at Hubzilla, which is where this comment comes from, even though most people will see it on Mastodon. Daily-drive Hubzilla for a year or two. And then tell me with a straight face that Hubzilla is a Twitter clone and all the same as Twitter.
And once again, I guess that literally nobody who is on Mastodon now sees anything wrong with this notion, and I only expect the usual small handful of non-Mastodon users to complain about it.
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So the activity that Mastodon has lost didn't go to Bluesky, but rather to places like Sharkey or GoToSocial or, in the cases of more daring users, even Friendica and its descendants (although I've yet to see anyone permanently move directly from Mastodon to (streams) or Forte, also because the latter inevitably requires your own server).
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